tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post8433515584670000740..comments2013-09-12T06:20:11.063+01:00Comments on Heavy Soil: If the Beach Boys had sung about rape and abortion ... Amanda PalmerTom Parnellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15585203595319919384noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-16880200717829504382008-09-19T20:01:00.000+01:002008-09-19T20:01:00.000+01:00Yeah, ok, I see your point. Maybe the Pitchfork re...Yeah, ok, I see your point. Maybe the Pitchfork reviewer didn't quite grasp that. actually, now I read those few lines again, I realise they really were missing it... hmmm. i will read more closely in future.<BR/><BR/>No, of course I don't think Palmer is belittling rape and abortion. (Give me credit, billy.)<BR/><BR/>I guess I just don't think it's that clever or funny. I can't explain why. It's as if, in their attempts to be ironic and provocative, they're missing a whole other level of irony. Ah, I give up!..humour is too difficult to try and dissect.halemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00001934624039670363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-39451271503471247042008-09-19T16:34:00.000+01:002008-09-19T16:34:00.000+01:00Fieldvole, it is a pleasure to have you banging on...Fieldvole, it is a pleasure to have you banging on.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I quite agree with Pitchfork, though. Surely the point is that the rape/abortion part is not ironical on the part of the singer. I feel like they've maybe missed the point a little.<BR/><BR/>Palmer isn't belittling rape and abortion, is she? Which seems to be what they're implying with 'obnoxious'. Isn't she in fact making a serious satirical point, potentially? About a culture in which such things are blithely discussed on the same level as pop groups? So there's a serious point behind the blithe delivery.<BR/><BR/>That's why *I* laughed, anyway. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, in seeing it as ultimately compassionate.<BR/><BR/>I'm less sure whether it's tasteful. But I'm pretty sure that it's not obnoxious in its intentions.Tom Parnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15585203595319919384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-75681509269515429252008-09-19T16:32:00.000+01:002008-09-19T16:32:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Tom Parnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15585203595319919384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-16465228390949840262008-09-19T16:19:00.000+01:002008-09-19T16:19:00.000+01:00Sorry to bang on about this... but I just saw the ...Sorry to bang on about this... but I just saw the following in a Pitchfork review:<BR/><BR/>"...the blithe, bubblegum, mostly obnoxious "Oasis", a rape and abortion ditty-- ha!-- that gives irony a bad name. (In her defense, Palmer once considered the track "too silly," but Folds convinced her to include it-- he should have known better, since his own abortion hit "Brick" was a lot more effective and affecting.)"<BR/><BR/>Just about sums it up for mehalemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00001934624039670363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-70128116121350278922008-09-17T19:04:00.000+01:002008-09-17T19:04:00.000+01:00I dunno... the "fine pop production" of Mr Folds d...I dunno... the "fine pop production" of Mr Folds doesn't seem to do much for me. in fact I feel Mr Folds seems to have injected this one with the annoying aspects of his own music. I know this is a controversial statement. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of Ben Folds' stuff very much. but I don't think i like the way he does irony... all that Rock This Bitch/ Rockin' the Suburbs stuff irritates the hell out of me.... and I just smell it too keenly in this track.<BR/><BR/>Amanda Palmer + Ben Folds = too much irony for mehalemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00001934624039670363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-55394258592674067182008-09-17T18:02:00.000+01:002008-09-17T18:02:00.000+01:00Oh Christ, I hadn't listened to the Regina/Ben col...Oh Christ, I hadn't listened to the Regina/Ben collaboration until now.<BR/><BR/>That's not very good.<BR/><BR/>It ought to have been brilliant, for god's sake ... Two musical colossi. Damn.<BR/><BR/>I think I like the Amanda Palmer collaboration more than you do, though ...Tom Parnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15585203595319919384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-48767357078601076702008-09-17T17:27:00.000+01:002008-09-17T17:27:00.000+01:00Hmm, do I find this funny? Maybe. I seem to be som...Hmm, do I find this funny? Maybe. I seem to be somewhat disappointed with Ben Folds' music of late though, I'm not liking his new single with Regina and I'm not liking the music of this Amanda Palmer song.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-88112735972817572122008-09-16T13:25:00.000+01:002008-09-16T13:25:00.000+01:00Fair doos - absolutely. I can see that this is on ...Fair doos - absolutely. I can see that this is on a knife-edge, and could go either way.<BR/><BR/>I have to admit I laughed at the Oasis bits. I think there *is* a satirical justification to the song's flippancy ... But that doesn't make it any less potentially irksome, of course.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for commenting ...Tom Parnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15585203595319919384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1068887141761067808.post-4545057540444493532008-09-16T02:28:00.000+01:002008-09-16T02:28:00.000+01:00I have to say, I really do not have time for this....I have to say, I really do not have time for this. Although I can appreciate what they/she is doing, I just find myself getting pissed off with the flippancy of itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com